Comments on: Blog #1: Ableton. It s***s all over Logic http://www.djslyone.co.uk/2009/06/blog-1-ableton-it-ss-all-over-logic/ Electronic DJ, producer Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:25:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Danalogue http://www.djslyone.co.uk/2009/06/blog-1-ableton-it-ss-all-over-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Danalogue Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:38:08 +0000 http://www.djslyone.co.uk/?p=174#comment-12 Nice blog mate, looking forward to following it. I'm another Ableton convert. Having used various hardware sequencers and Cubase on the Atari and then later reincarnations on the PC, Ableton suits me perfectly. I've had a few plays with Logic - which is incredibly pretty. But so is the sound. Using the supplied instruments I found it all a bit 'nicey nice'. I have to say that I loved Reason - just the actual editing window let it down. But I guess thats moved on a bit since the version 2 I used. Oh how I miss the Scream distortion unit!. But ive got a DAW that wokrs for me now. Ableton is well worth the time it takes to get used to it. Nice blog mate, looking forward to following it.

I’m another Ableton convert. Having used various hardware sequencers and Cubase on the Atari and then later reincarnations on the PC, Ableton suits me perfectly.

I’ve had a few plays with Logic – which is incredibly pretty. But so is the sound. Using the supplied instruments I found it all a bit ‘nicey nice’.

I have to say that I loved Reason – just the actual editing window let it down. But I guess thats moved on a bit since the version 2 I used. Oh how I miss the Scream distortion unit!. But ive got a DAW that wokrs for me now. Ableton is well worth the time it takes to get used to it.

]]> By: Custard http://www.djslyone.co.uk/2009/06/blog-1-ableton-it-ss-all-over-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Custard Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:44:21 +0000 http://www.djslyone.co.uk/?p=174#comment-11 I've gotta say since working with Ben (Tequila Slammer) on our psytrance productions I've experienced how creative the work flow is in Ableton, the speed of which you can work building a track is phenomenal. I'm completely sold, just the thought of time stretching samples and going back and forth between channels using the mixer using Logic just chills me to the bone! As you know G, I've always been a Logic user mostly because I use a Mac and ten years ago (blimey I can't believe its been that long) when I first got into production it pissed all over Cubase. If something's going to make life easier and more fun then I'm always up for a change! As soon as I'm a fluent my dosh will most definitely be going on Ableton and as I already have Logic I may as well use them both together for the best of both worlds. By the way, nice Blog Graham! I’ve gotta say since working with Ben (Tequila Slammer) on our psytrance productions I’ve experienced how creative the work flow is in Ableton, the speed of which you can work building a track is phenomenal. I’m completely sold, just the thought of time stretching samples and going back and forth between channels using the mixer using Logic just chills me to the bone! As you know G, I’ve always been a Logic user mostly because I use a Mac and ten years ago (blimey I can’t believe its been that long) when I first got into production it pissed all over Cubase. If something’s going to make life easier and more fun then I’m always up for a change!

As soon as I’m a fluent my dosh will most definitely be going on Ableton and as I already have Logic I may as well use them both together for the best of both worlds.

By the way, nice Blog Graham!

]]> By: Sly One http://www.djslyone.co.uk/2009/06/blog-1-ableton-it-ss-all-over-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Sly One Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:57:02 +0000 http://www.djslyone.co.uk/?p=174#comment-8 Nice! I had a play around with ProTools a while ago - the M-Powered edition. Seemed very audio-centric so I thought I'd give it a stab for band recordings at some point but never got around to it. I can see that rewiring Ableton into it would be a really nice way to work if you're just using Ableton for audio-mashing and loops and you're used to Pro-Tools. I used to rewire Reason into Cubase, way back. For me though, it's the workflow of Ableton that really gets me excited, rather than its capabilities. I like not having the faff! Nice! I had a play around with ProTools a while ago – the M-Powered edition. Seemed very audio-centric so I thought I’d give it a stab for band recordings at some point but never got around to it.

I can see that rewiring Ableton into it would be a really nice way to work if you’re just using Ableton for audio-mashing and loops and you’re used to Pro-Tools. I used to rewire Reason into Cubase, way back.

For me though, it’s the workflow of Ableton that really gets me excited, rather than its capabilities. I like not having the faff!

]]> By: Anton Nathrass http://www.djslyone.co.uk/2009/06/blog-1-ableton-it-ss-all-over-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Anton Nathrass Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:49:17 +0000 http://www.djslyone.co.uk/?p=174#comment-7 Phew, nice topic here. I am not nearly as advanced as the two of you on music production but love Ableton. I started out using it for radio shows and pre recorded mixes only but create a lot of work in Ableton these days. I must admit that I do not use Ableton as my main sequencer, I use it as a plug in, using rewire to record to Pro Tools and do the mixdown in the all new Pro Tools 8. Just personal preference I suppose. I know the same is possible for Logic so existing Logic or Pro Tools users can simply check Ableton out as an additional instrument. It's beautiful either way :) Thanks for all the great info and sure you guys will keep up the great releases.... Phew, nice topic here.

I am not nearly as advanced as the two of you on music production but love Ableton. I started out using it for radio shows and pre recorded mixes only but create a lot of work in Ableton these days. I must admit that I do not use Ableton as my main sequencer, I use it as a plug in, using rewire to record to Pro Tools and do the mixdown in the all new Pro Tools 8. Just personal preference I suppose. I know the same is possible for Logic so existing Logic or Pro Tools users can simply check Ableton out as an additional instrument.

It’s beautiful either way :) Thanks for all the great info and sure you guys will keep up the great releases….

]]> By: Sly One http://www.djslyone.co.uk/2009/06/blog-1-ableton-it-ss-all-over-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Sly One Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:02:53 +0000 http://www.djslyone.co.uk/?p=174#comment-6 Hey Mat, I certainly wouldn't ever suggest that Logic produces generic trance! The fact is, 99% of the best producers use Logic, and they do so very well. Logic is also a really creative environment and for people that are used to it, it's the best place to be. I guess I wanted to challenge the belief that Logic is inherently "better"; I believe that this is a myth with some basis in fact: so many people rely on its excellent plugins that they expect the built-in ones in other DAWs to sound as good. However, an environment like Ableton Live has let me creative in a way that I could never get from Logic or Cubase, and several people have come back to me with thanks for the recommendation, so I thought I'd share it :) Hey Mat, I certainly wouldn’t ever suggest that Logic produces generic trance! The fact is, 99% of the best producers use Logic, and they do so very well. Logic is also a really creative environment and for people that are used to it, it’s the best place to be. I guess I wanted to challenge the belief that Logic is inherently “better”; I believe that this is a myth with some basis in fact: so many people rely on its excellent plugins that they expect the built-in ones in other DAWs to sound as good.

However, an environment like Ableton Live has let me creative in a way that I could never get from Logic or Cubase, and several people have come back to me with thanks for the recommendation, so I thought I’d share it :)

]]> By: Mat Lock http://www.djslyone.co.uk/2009/06/blog-1-ableton-it-ss-all-over-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Mat Lock Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:53:19 +0000 http://www.djslyone.co.uk/?p=174#comment-5 Hey Graham, fascinating read and something I never really thought about. I have only used FL7 and Cubase SX briefly and have worked with Luke Warner in Logic. Never even thought of Ableton as a DAW myself. Then again I am clueless really, that and my laptop doesnt run Ableton haha. Look forward to hearing some non generic logic'ified trance !! Byeee Hey Graham, fascinating read and something I never really thought about. I have only used FL7 and Cubase SX briefly and have worked with Luke Warner in Logic. Never even thought of Ableton as a DAW myself. Then again I am clueless really, that and my laptop doesnt run Ableton haha.

Look forward to hearing some non generic logic’ified trance !!

Byeee

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